Subject: Female Flame form :

Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(El Doofacita) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 22:04:07
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COMMENTS: I'm sorry, but all I have to say was that this wasn't a hate mail, and I did my best. But don't worry, I'll become better next time. If I was to nice for you, well I'm sorry for being me. I don't hate any of you, you have your rights.

[We have our privileges, too.]

Now I know why they call you girls heartless.

[Distinction: We call OURSELVES heartless.]

If I'm a doormat the so are you,

[Why? We're guilty because you are?]

because I can bite and scream and shout for myself and for my rights whenever and wherever I want to.

[Any kid can throw a tantrum. This doesn't mean anything.]

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Name: judith

[The email lists a male's name. Get your OWN address.]

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
i cant stand the ex, that is also a total scum bag

[Was he a scumbag before you dated him, or did his association with you degrade him to that status?]

and the next door neighbor who flirts with my man, i am going to rip her blonde hair out by its brunette roots

[She can't steal your man, you don't OWN him. However, should he leave you for her, he wasn't worth hanging around in the first place. She's not a thief--he's CHOOSING to leave you. Save your energy for becoming a more secure person.]

if she doesn't keep her smart ass looks to herself and make it so that she is not worth looking at even by the biggest wino in our town.

[That's who you're dating?]

i also think that men have only one brain and that is definitely not the one in their heads.

[So should he fall for her, it's because he's too stupid, or he's thinking with his cock? Tell me what your attraction is for him if that's true.]

One Liner:
i'm sick of helpless little bimbos that seem to get whatever they want just by batting their eyes and pouting, that shit is for 2 year old to pull on their daddys

[Doesn't work for you, does it?]

[Remember Di?]

Name: Di

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I have better things to do with my life then play with you.

[Who's playing?]

I don't collect welfare,

[I didn't pull that one out of my ass. YOU said that you used to. I just bet that you claimed the kids that weren't in your care at the time to collect it when you were collecting it.]

I became tired of my life as someone else's mother

[You could hardly be your OWN mother, you'd HAVE to be someone else's. As I recall, your reasons for leaving was because your husband was "mean on you." I guess I called THIS one right, too.]

and wife. I left. Simple as that. So now, I tire of trying to "stack up" to "your standards" where they mean little to me.

[I can hardly expect you to live up to our standards (no quotes necessary, we have them), when you've failed so miserably to live up to your own.]

I enjoyed the pages nonetheless - keep it up for yourselves.
C-ya.

[Don't worry. She'll be back. People who look for validation here usually do return.]

One Liner:
Who's fucking reality is it anyway?

[You're one of those people who creates her own. There's ONE fucking reality, kiddo.]

[Back a bit later in the week.]

Name: Diane

[As if nothing ever happened.]

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I don't put up with shit from people who are idiots.

[They aren't welcome here either.]

I hate romance novels and little girly movies as well.

[As much as you hated being someone else's mother and wife?]

And although I like having a good poke here and there, I certainly don't need a man to improve my life.

[But you won't say no to a little state-funded support here and there.]

I'm my own boss when it comes to the decisions I make.

[This would sound better coming from someone who didn't abandon her children and blame her husband for it.]

I treat a person the way they seem to want to be treated - which is how they treat others.

[Twist THAT one around how you treat your children.]

I don't need someone else's approval or satisfaction to tell me how good I am.

[So why do you keep coming back HERE?]

I don't need someone else telling me WHO I am. If I don't know, what the hell good am I?

[I don't see much good in you.]

This is my reality,

[Don't confuse reality with psychosis.]

I live in it and I'm responsible for it.

[Responsible? Now THERE'S a laugh for you. I doubt you know what it means.]

This includes my own reactions to someone else.

[How responsible is it to leave the kids with the husband because he was mean "on" you for telling you to be responsible?]

Fighting and arguing is for people who don't know how to be real.

[This is the next thing I'd love to see your definition for. What IS reality to you? I take it back, leaving the kids was the BEST thing your crazy ass could do, even if it's for the wrong reasons.]

I prefer the mental manipulation approach to get what I want.

[What a shocker. Here's reality. ASK for what you want. You don't need mental games when you're really and truly friends with reality.]

I know who I am;

[In your psychosis/reality...who are you today?]

I know what I want, I know how to get to where I'm going. Stay outta my way while I get there.

[Well, at ONE time, you wanted to be a mother.]

One Liner:
Peace, Mother Fucker! Peace!

[Sometimes I wonder how they come up with the figures on the mentally ill. According to statistics, about 10 to 15% of our population is mentally ill. As you read through each diagnosis, you will see that there are percentages there as well. I used to believe that the percentage merely represented a percentage of that 10-15%, but now I think it's cumulative.]

Name: mdn

URL : www.getwomennow.com

[Great site from Ms. High-n-Mighty.]

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
What I should've said from the beginning...

[Great. Another crybaby.]

Why I am NOT a Heartless Bitch:

[Because I suck. The End.]

My sense of humor is not limited to insults and put-downs.

[I wonder if you have one because your awareness of the site in its entirety is abysmal.]

I do not derive self-esteem from mocking others.

[Who does? Self-esteem comes from the SELF. Others cannot give that to you.]

I don't go out of my way to be mean to others just because I can.

[I don't trip little old ladies or take candy from babies. You think that you rejects can say what you like without repercussion? It doesn't work that way. You were warned.]

Mostly, I do not do any of the above and try to pass it off as satire.

[I'm not satire. Weak of the Week is more verbal slapstick and potty humor. I've never claimed otherwise.]

"Don't spit on my cake and tell me it's frosting", as a certain judge would say.

[Her quote is "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." Don't church it up, get it right, and list a source.]

I believe that nearly everyone can be redeemed,

[I believe that everyone has the ability to redeem THEMSELVES. Former Weak of the Week stars have gone on to become exemplary members. Their metamorphosis had nothing to do with me.]

and that a kind word can do more in this regard than a thousand hurled insults.

[I'm not in the business of saving you from yourself. I'm female, but that doesn't mean that my breasts are dripping with nourishment. Get off the teat.]

I work hard to achieve success, but do not gloat over those who were less fortunate.

[It's not luck that gets you here.]

I treat people (male or female) as I would like to be treated - with dignity and respect.

[As if this is respectful. Be respectful, have a position that comes from understanding the facts, not melodramatic emotional interpretation. This whole spiel is just your statement of how much better you are than those of us who aren't as nice.]

Nevertheless, I do have the capacity to laugh at myself once in a while,

[No, the former stars had the ability to laugh at themselves.]

something I have yet to notice from any HBI members - except perhaps Morrigan.

[I could fill a warehouse just with the things you have yet to notice about this site alone.]

I take no pleasure in winning arguments against those of limited intelligence.

[I don't bother to argue with them. My commentary isn't an argument. You sensitive little crybabies ought to log off the big, bad internet if you think so.]

I certainly would not display them as trophies, together with my own witty additions (see how I told that guy off? yeah!!)

[To each his own. Personally, I wouldn't write to someone to try to convince them that I was a better person because of my beliefs.]

- I do not require this kind of validation, and to celebrate such a triumph would be false and self-defeating.

[Writing this garbage isn't, though.]

I recognize that I am not always right, that a different point of view may be worth listening to sometimes.

[Too different would make your pointy little head explode. I always think a different point of view is refreshing. The problem is that you little pinheads drop by with the same ideas, act as if I've never heard them before, and you take offense with disagreement.]

I do not demand that people agree with my views before even deigning to have a conversation

[You just said that you thought different views were worth listening to sometimes. What times are they NOT worth listening to? How would you know before listening to them?]

(see the BitchBoard: You'd better conform with our requirements before we let you

[Our standards are being intelligent and able to think, and being able to support your opinion based on actual fact, instead of what your boyfriend or mother told you. Yes, I can ascertain this from your applications to a certain degree.]

into our group of non-conformists!

[Where did we say that we are non-conformists? As soon as you pluralize that, it doesn't exist.]

Disagree with something? It's Weak of the Week for you!).

[Say something stupid? It's Weak of the Week for you. The members' page is full of different opinions, viewpoints, and argument. Pukefest, which many of you just DO NOT get, is a perfect example of how we all have various and contradicting opinion, which is all valid.]

The result is a homogeneous mass. The (proudly displayed) successful applications sound so similar they may have all been written by the same handful of people. I suppose the measure cuts down on dissention, but can't make for very stimulating conversation.

[I guess you'll never truly know, will you? Judge all you like, but you'll be making your opinions without any fact, and that's why you weren't accepted. You're here on Weak of the Week because you're pretty hypocritical and dunderheaded about it.]

Overall, this has been something of a disappointment. I truly wish the world had more strong, independent, intelligent women, but less so-called Heartless Bitches.

[It's been my pleasure to disappoint, and not appoint you.]

One Liner:
You people suck a watermelon through the tailpipe of a 1972 Trabant

[But you never stoop to insult.]

Name: Candice

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I have a bad haaand and arm,compartmentsyndrome,I get 90 pain pills a mouth.My husband get's pain pills for arthritis knee's and so on.I eat mine and steal his,which is a major fight here,

[No kidding. Tried rehab?]

I spit in the dirty sonof a bitches face and punched him in his fat gut.

[That's why your arm won't heal.]

I took my car and rammed the shit out of my kid's boyfriend's car.I smashed a cherry pie in the face of some worker in the grocery store he dared to lip off to me for answering there phone and telling the person on the end to fuck off.

[You've GOT to be on medication. No, I mean go and get some that work.]

I hate my mother-in law she has diabete's only drinks sugar free I make sure when she's coming to have regular coke waiting for her tongue to drag the floor in thirst.I sit and plot way's to piss off my other daughter's boyfriend,it's my favorite pass time,I think he's a faggot,my nickname for him is "fudge packer"

[Yeah, like I believe you call him "fudge packer."]

I threw a bike through my husband's windshield.I rammed his car up the drive through the gate and smashed his motor cycle cause he dared to call me a bitch.I could go on ,when I'm accepted I will tell more.

[Tell it to your psychiatrist. You know that you have an interest in this property, don't you? ]

One Liner:
ok fuck it take it or not I really don't give a fuck,so fuck you guy's too

[This is scary because I believe she's at least this violent in her mind.]

Name: Lori

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
It's not that I choose to be a heartless bitch but there is just so much material in the world that I have no choice but to be one.

[We've made the choice. Life doesn't just happen to us. We make our decisions and live with them.]

Is it my fault the next door neighbor's daughter is blind? (I know the sounds I hear at night have to be her tripping over her toys.)

[What's this got to do with anything?]

Is it my fault that my daughter keeps choosing door nails for dates?

[Monkey see, monkey do.]

(No, it is not a career choice to work at a gas station.) Have you read the newspaper lately? Pick a headline. (How come they only talk about people dying if they were beautiful or had great potential?

[Who really cares otherwise.]

Surely, ugly, stupid people deserve write ups in the papers too.)

[They call them obituaries. When they are VERY stupid, they have a little blurb in the "around the world" section.]

Did I ask to have a co-worker who's from Colorado? (Do you think she'll find out that it was me who replaced her desktop wallpaper of the Denver skyline with a town that had been ravaged by fire?)

[What did she do to deserve that? What purpose did you have other than being a pest?]

Family reunion? (The day I voluntarily get back together with my family is the day my brother divorces that "one-armed bandit" he married last year.)

[Glad to see that you hold your loved ones hostage. Do as you say, or else.]

So you see, I was born into this role by the absurdities of everyday life. I wouldn't want it any other way.

[You ARE the absurdities of everyday life.]

One Liner:
As long as I amuse myself that's all that matters.

[I know one thing. If you touched MY computer, my new wallpaper would be my foot in your ass.]

Name: "Mindi"

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I am sick and tired of the whiny, spineless idiots that expect no responsibility for their actions. Especially those people who expect me to hold their hand and take care of their personal problems. See, I am the office manager of a small company that is owned by my parents.

[See the twists and turns to cover up the fact that she works for her daddy. There is no shame in working in the family business, but it becomes an issue when you resort to the passive voice to conceal it a little. I want to know how hard it was for her to get that job. She's criticizing people for wanting her to take care of her problems, yet she's working for her family.]

I was raised to take responsibility for your actions, if you screw up by god ADMIT to it... DO NOT try to cover it up and lie about!!!

[And for God's sake, don't contort a sentence because you don't want to simply say that you're working for your parents.]

Just today, I had an employee come in to my office with the following story... After his scheduled 4 day shift ended last Thursday, he and his "family" (girlfriend and who knows how many bastard kids)

[That constitutes a family, by the way.]

were on their way out of town for his scheduled time off. He was stopped for speeding and consequently arrested for failure to pay back child support. He was concerned that the company had not paid his child support. Of course I had confirmed with the state and county that our obligation as a company has been met and both thier and my records are in accordance. I therefore, told him this information and that IT WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY to straighten this mess out. He wanted me to do it, but I said "this is NOT my mess! IT is your mess AND responsibility!"

[I'm wondering why he even asked you why it had not been paid. If they were garnishing his wages, then this is your mess to sort out with him.]

Needless to say he is happy, but I do not care...

[Good. Let's shut the book on him and continue talking about you.]

This is the same guy who has 5 bastard kids with at least 3 mothers.

[I thought you didn't care.]

So who cares that about half of his paycheck goes to child support.

[Why are we talking about it?]

Two words baby! Birth Control. The world is over populated... Quite having kids... It does not stop there...

[I'm still waiting for your reasons.]

I had one employee who had a tardiness problem, one day he failed to show up for work and no phone call. By lunch time, I had cut his final paycheck, deducted the cost of missing uniforms for the paycheck and had the locks changed through out the building. Guess who had a reality check when he wanted to clear out his tool box after hours.

[I guess it was a good thing that he wasn't in the hospital. The only reason that you get away with your gestapo business practices is because your company is too small to be covered by federal guidelines.]

One employee insisted he wanted to got to every prenatal appt with his girlfriend... guess who is out of a job for missing too much work... hello she is having the baby not you!

[I happen to agree with this IF he didn't have sick time or benefits to cover it. You had a responsibility to tell him that he would be fired if he missed the work. I wonder if you did. That's what a Heartless Bitch would do. It's what I did.]

That was the tip of the iceberg. In addition to working I am also a graduate student with teaching assistant appointmnet. If a student is late with an assignment...no excuses... zero credit...

[I'm going to enjoy it when the school board overrides your zero tolerance policy.]

I have no problems failing little sniveling, snot nosed, pampered, just ask daddy for the money,

[Just ask daddy for the money? Just ask daddy for the job!]

18/19 year olds kids. It does not cause me to loose sleep. I have been there done that. I received by BS degree 9 years ago, but recently went back for my MS. This time around I am working full time, taking classes, working on my thesis and teaching... so don't come crying to me when you can not turn in your lab assignment on time because you decided to go out dancing, get shit faced and fuck the first guy/girl you saw the night before...

[Do you realize how resentful of these kids you sound?]

A word of caution to my employees and students, even though I am there for you at times, and I may be helpful.

[That's debatable. Helpful would be giving clear outlines of expectations.]

Just remember... It really bugs the shit out me when you disturb me and expect me to drop everything to hold your hand and straighten out your personel affairs.

[That's part of what teachers DO.]

Next time you come to me, which is about any given time. THe answer is NO... I will NOT fix it for you! It is your problem and responsibility, for God's sake go do it yourself... I have busy schedule so leave me alone!!!

[As an employer, I understand this. As a TEACHER, it's your duty to teach these kids about this. It's what you signed on to do, so don't cry to me about this part of your job.]

One Liner:
Gather the talk show hosts and thier audiences into one location and drop the BIG bomb. Two birds with one stone, solve the over population problem AND it will elimante all whiny people.

[Not all of them. You have to hit some of the Mom and Pop shops for some.]

Name: Pamela

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
In detail? That would take days. How about: I couldn't possibly be a bigger whiner than the other bitches you've given membership to.

[Way to go! Insult my judgment and standards while asserting your own mediocrity. Got to say that this was a unique approach, though.]

One Liner:
Waxing your bikini line is for pussies.

[Well, that's where it lives.]

Name: melissa

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I wa suspended from highschool probably more then  was attended schoolfor fighting rotten bitches and guys for that  matter.If someone is ignorant I will let them know in the most blunt way possible .i have had gone through mire jobs in the past two years thn anyone on the face of the earth because if i know im right ,i wont take shit from anyone.

[You sound like a pleasure to associate with.]

One Liner:
> If you fuc with meyou will be fucked

[The Ka-Razy AOL profile.]

Member Name: MELISSA , is so cute dont you just want to pinch her ....dumpsta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !!!???
Location: [Deleted] ,CHECKELSOLVKIA,bolivia someplace else iguess
Sex: Female
Marital Status: my boyfriend is wicked hot
Hobbies: i love to party,mike , billy , john i dont give a f@*% as long as theres beer !will you do something with me from craps sake...your a hard man to know, a closed book!!!!!!!!!!!you smell lik epoop smelly
Computers: the one that is very rearly used .
Occupation: DONT ASK ITS RATHER EMBAREASSING,uhhhhhhhhhg!!!  !!!!!i go through job like undrewear, i dont wear any
Personal Quote: when you realize that people are attracted to smiles, you will realize that lifes too short to hate anyone.besides a day without a laugh is a day wasted:a life without someone that makes u laff is boring! when will you REALIZE i was JUST TRYING TO HELP.

Name: melissa

[And again. I know. I know.]

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
[Galaxy] high is the scccum of the earth in one little school.I was suspended from highschool probably more then i attended for fighting rotten bitches and guys for that matter Im not like everyone else and people dont like it,Im hot ,girls dont like me , Im very blunt and guys dont like it . I fart I burp and i pick my nose ,who gives a fuck .If someone is ignorant to anyone in my presence I will let them know

[I wonder what your basis for comparison is.]

in the most horrifying way possible .i have had gone through more jobs in the past two years thn anyone on the face of the earth because I graduted with high honors , I go to school , i have worked Everywhere why am i going to get paid 7.50 because people are cheap!

[Because that's all that flipping a burger is worth.]

If you are going to lie make sure you belive it because the truth will come out and it will Shit on your Face!If I want something Iwill get it ,Iwill bust my ass to do what need to do becasue no one was put on this earth to serve you

One Liner:
I may be tiny but I sure as hell will kick you hiney??

[Will you, or won't you? Is you is, or is you ain't?]

Name: Florence

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I love to take poeple for granted and use them. I love being a home wrecker and living with a married man for the last 20 years while taunting his wife

[It's been 20 years and he's still married to her? You're losing your touch (with reality). Wait...it's even MORE sickening. Dude, that's your dad. How can you treat your Mom like that?]

and even causing several stress related hospital stays for her..

[She's really doing that to herself.]

haha I'm currently sueing my own mother and father just because they left me out of there will..

[You're suing their estate, dumbass. Good luck. Give them a copy of this, and they'll grant you a guardian of your very own.]

i hate everyone that isn't like me. oh! and did i mention I'm a racest and am a proud member of the KKK.

[No, you're too stupid for the Klan. I'm sure even THEY have standards.]

One Liner:
I worked for the state of Mass in a retard hospital(deleted) and loved beating and demeaning clients every chance i got.

[Suuure, you "worked" there. Let me go buy some swampland and bridges.]

[A comment from a devoted reader. His appearance here does not mean that he's weak, but that he's commenting ON the weak.]

"Get a grip, whydoncha? He had a little more than a six-pack [eight beers] while he painted the house. Big deal."

Yes, it IS a big deal. For an average adult male, that's probably enough to make it hard to walk straight (I don't remember anymore, I quit ten years ago),

[Sure, if he drank them all in one sitting. Many males across America drink while doing big household jobs. Furthermore, I'm no prude. If wants to get drunk, that's his business. I'm not going to assume the man is an alcoholic based on the say-so of an angry, bitter wife. I think she would have mentioned that if she suspected that was the case anyway.]

let alone climb and stand on a ladder while handling painting tools.

[It's a good point, and I do not advocate what he did. You will note that I said that it wasn't a bright thing to do. My issue is with her because she's the applicant. I'm not Dear Fuckin' Bon, I don't really care what his problem is or what steps she can take to wellness. She wrote in to tell me that she denied her drunken husband health care because she's such a "heartless bitch," and this was proof of her membership qualities. Let's put that in perspective. There's no real proof that he's an alcoholic, and even if he were, it's more of a disease, and he still deserves some compassion. He wasn't lounging around the house (and that's not a sin), he wasn't out in a titty-bar, and he wasn't whippin' her ass. He was painting the house. I just can't see this as a person who doesn't deserve an ambulance.]

This is beyond idiocy, it's probably alcoholism, and it probably wasn't the first time this woman had to drop everything to deal with the messes he'd created.

[I think you're assuming a bit, but even if you were 100% correct, the right thing to do was to get him care (call an ambulance, for Pete's sake), THEN leave. She really can't kvetch about him if she chooses to stick around. If she wants to sit in her shit and cry, that's her CHOICE, but she's no Heartless Bitch because she chose to stay with a man who does this and chooses to treat him bad, and still chooses to stick around for more stupidity.]

Still, she has no reason to be an HB.

[She has EVERY reason to be a Heartless Bitch, she's got no reasons listed proving it, and her whole application was evidence to her own senselessness.]

It is clear that she enjoyed treating him with contempt,

[It is also clear that she thinks being a Heartless Bitch is about being cruel and mean to others. She demonstrated an unwillingness to be responsible for the consequences of her actions (staying with a husband she feels is an idiot), yet forcing him to be responsible for his actions, which also makes her a hypocrite.]

and she probably stayed with him for a lot longer than she should have in order to do so at opportunity afforded to her by his drunken behavior.

[If that's true, and again, I'd have a hard time convincing myself that the man is an alcoholic based on this description, then she'd have to pay the piper. Thanks for writing in.]

Name: ^Tina

Reasons for being a Heartless Bitch:
I just can't tolerate anyone who want everything their way, and will go out of their way to bullshit and manipulate (be it male or female). Very unstereo type person, even though i have 2 kids, i don't beat around the bush. have played games with the weak (especially some types of men, who really do ask for it, and they run like hell ;)

[But you don't bullshit and manipulate?]

which is the goal) i hate barbie and ken types, and have been known to tamper with my daughters barbies, and give them new hair colour and tattoos, and other unglamorous markings.

[I understand it when kids fuck up their own toys, but what are you teaching them when you do it for them? I think you're treading on very dangerous ground, even if they are just dolls. Kids have no other possessions, usually, and if you don't respect their things, how are they going to learn to respect those of others? If you don't LIKE Barbie and Ken, DON'T BUY THEM.]

I also hate women who think they should look pretty, and open their legs just to keep a man-pure bullshit!

[What business is it of yours how Barbie keeps Ken?]

One Liner:
If you can't say something original-I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT!-it's true!!

[Stick with intelligent. You can be original without being smart, but if you're intelligent and witty, people don't mind a little redundancy.]